Re: Global Warming
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- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:29:45 -0400
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forth the following:
We are not experiencing those stronger winds.
In other words, "Go Mavs" made his point. The Earth and Mars are
warming
for different reasons.
Uh, no. Wind, like evaporation, is a cooling action. Go back to your
third grade physics class.
Uh, no. Wind accelerates heat transfer for a variety of reasons. It is
not intrinsically heating or cooling. Repeat kindergarten and try
again.
In other words, "Go Mavs" made his point. The Earth and Mars, having
entirely different atmospheric systems, are warming for different
reasons, to the surprise of no one excep those who, for political
reasons, require Earth and Mars to be warming for the same reason.
By the way, climatologists aren't stupid, don't think in lockstep,
aren't engaged in a conspiracy and don't like to overlook things,
although for political reasons many people profess to believe that they
are stupid, do think in lockstep, are engaged in conspiracy and do
overlook things, and climatologist have looked at solar radiation flux
and are fairly certain that solar radiation flux is reponsible for about
1/10 of the warming that's attributable to increased greenhouse gasses
(the figures were something like 1.6 watts/m**2 vs .16 watts/m**2).
Yes, they DO look for alternative explanations and work to understand
what the data tells them, unlike those who have arrived at conclusions
first and then would like to fit the facts to meet the required
conclusions.
it's atmosphere to create high and low pressure (wind is an attempt at
equilibrium). Something as simple as a shadow can be enough. Since Mars
does revolve, it has a shadow and different terrain makes for variable
type winds.
Yeah, but it rotation is more improtant. It takes about 1.9 years for it
revolve once around the sun, about about 25 hours for it to rotate once on
its axis.
What we do know, and we are made aware for the past few New Years Eves,
is that Earth's rotation around the sun is slowing. Mar's rotation could
be slowing too.
Rotation is when it travels around an axis, like a fan or the wheels on a
bicycle.
Revolution is when it travels around something, like the earth around the
sun or the moon around the earth.
Sorry, i don't mean to be a pain, but, I like to use vocabulary correctly.
A one second or two second difference may not seem much over a span of
one year. But that's due to our perspective of life and our life cycle.
A while back there was a rare occurrence of all the planets lining up. If
we can accept the idea that we can't see planets in other solar systems
but we know the possibility is there because the star's seem to be pulled
by the gravitational pull of it's planets, then is it safe to say a full
line-up as I mentioned earlier would have an effect not only on our sun
but on the individual planet's on each other?
The gravitational effects when the planets line up would be rather small.
When Voyager was flung with the help of Jupiter, it was estimated to have
caused Jupiter to have lost one-quarter of an inch in a trillion years
concerning either it's rotation on it's axis or rotation around the sun.
Energy transferred but considered a benign human interference.
Gee, the sun will blow up in a few billion years. I doubt I will live to
measure it!
Jeff
You're not being a pain.
If it takes an additional 2 seconds to complete one revolution around the
Sun, this can be interpreted as Earth's orbit has decayed. The mean distance
Earth is from the Sun is approximately 93 million miles. Or should I say,
was 93 million miles.
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