Re: {OT} why we cannot leave iraq

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:xn0er7ra5gr4zy003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DH, 9/14/2006, 2:41:04 PM,
<45099587$0$19745$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

2. Countless of their own citizens from the time they came in
power in order to squash any uprisings. This is a terroristic
regime ever since they came into power in 1978. Mostly terrorizing
their own people.

Have you got a source for this? None of my Iranian friends has ever
mentioned this and it's not something I've seen in the papers. The
level of oppression doesn't appear to meet, let alone exceed, that of
the Shah's regime. If you said they don't have the same level of
freedom that we enjoy, yes, I'd have to agree with you there, but the
level of vioilent oppression is, as far as I know, quite low.

In the past I have mentioned living in the Middle East for 7-8 years at
one time. That was Iran during the Shah's time. I was there from
1971-1979.

I was there in the late '70's.

Did you live in Tehran? What street or neighborhood?

When the mullahs took over they executed thousands of
people almost immediately. These people included government officials
of all levels, suspected government officials, Baha'i people,

I hadn't thought about the Ba'hais in this context, lately. I do dimly
recall there was some talk of explicit oppression of them after '79. Some
consider them apostates and I don't know if there are formal civil penalties
but, as you probably know, in Islam the penalty for apostasy is death.

people
they had grudges against, anyone that was accused of being a spy and so
forth. In many cases their family members were thrown into prisons or
executed also just to ensure there would be no reprisals. I know this
because every night they would broadcast the executions and show the
bullet-ridden bodies on TV to drive home their message. We were not
able to leave until August 1979, just a few months before the hostage
crisis began.

That's more the result of fighting a revolution than anything else, I don't
think you could characterize that as systematic oppression by the new
regime.

I still have friends back there that we keep in contact
with who have lived through the past 27 years of constant horror and
repression. Your friends may or may not have lived through those times
so it is conceivable they don't know the difference. I'll bet if you
have them call home and talk to their parents and such they will
confirm what I tell you.

I'll look into this. I'm not in contact with anyone in Iran but I have
friends who are.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: {OT} why we cannot leave iraq
    ... regime ever since they came into power in 1978. ... Mostly terrorizing ... because every night they would broadcast the executions and show the ...
    (alt.autos.toyota)
  • People Power Primed - Civilian Resistance and Democratization - HIR - 2005
    ... People Power Primed: Civilian Resistance and Democratization ... and Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili. ... the Communist regime permit a free trade union. ...
    (soc.culture.ukrainian)
  • Re: Why Online Games are So Fun
    ... takes care of all decisions as was in World War II regimes. ... fascist terrorist being of American Power deciding and radicating ... regime as a classist system only creation of a regime, ... Ceausescu as a dictator hated culture, ...
    (sci.astro)
  • Re: Why Online Games are So Fun
    ... takes care of all decisions as was in World War II regimes. ... fascist terrorist being of American Power deciding and radicating ... regime as a classist system only creation of a regime, ... Ceausescu as a dictator hated culture, ...
    (sci.astro)
  • Re: Why Online Games are So Fun
    ... takes care of all decisions as was in World War II regimes. ... fascist terrorist being of American Power deciding and radicating ... regime as a classist system only creation of a regime, ... Ceausescu as a dictator hated culture, ...
    (sci.astro)