Re: The Senate proves its worthless again

Really? When I was in college in the late forties and all the way up to the
mid seventies those in the know were telling us green house gasses were
going to cause a new ice age. Should we follow their advice? When, now or
back then? ;)

mike hunt


"ToMh" <tlhumm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1150392887.730121.290440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Mike Hunter wrote:
Me thinks you are confused. We are all environmentalist in the we do not
want to improve our environment. The exception been the environuts, who
believe everything that happens to environment is caused by man and who
have
a vested interest in man as the cause. The facts are somewhere
in-between,
we have polluted the environment but the US is the leader in the world in
cleaning up past abuses and the prevention further pollution.

I agree, but just as bad as the "environuts" are those who write
everything off as environment wacko junk. You are right though, the
truth lies in between, but unless people are willing to be open to all
sides of the debate, all you have is the two extremes.


To say 'most
scientists agree the world is warming' as does Gore, is a far different
than
saying they believe man is the CAUSE. The fact is far more true
scientist
and climatologist, who believe the planet temperature is changing,
believe
the changes are part of the normal climatic changes that are the result
of
natural force such as volcanoes, movement of tectonic plates, cyclical
change in sun flairs and the relationship of the sun to the earth in its
elliptical rotation around the sun. Things over man has little or no
control. Even greenhouse gases are looked at differently today.. Some
say
they cause the earth to warm, while others say they cool the earth by
blocking the sun. If we had followed the advice of the
'environmentalist's'
that suggest we place carbon black on claciers to melt them in the
seventies, things would be different today. The fact is although the ice
caps in the Artic are thinning the ice caps in the Antarctic are
thickening.
The fact is the temperature of the earth over the past three years as
decreased, not increased resulting in the environuts referring to the
subject as 'global climate change', rather than global warming. Changes
to
the earths average temperature are documented in the ice an fusel
records.
Temperatures during the 165 million years that the dinosaurs roamed the
earth were an average of four degrees higher than to today, while during
the
most recent ice age 10,000 years ago is was only two degrees lower than
today. Until we can know for sure WHY, it would be down right foolish to
determine what we should do to effect the weather in any manner.


There are also a lot of valid studies showing that the manmade
greenhouse gases are influencing and speeding up global warming.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2006/troposphere_ozone.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1489955,00.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm

I think it is clear that there is a lot of conficting data. Pesonnaly
I'm on the fence, but when we have the power to limit green house
gases, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution?



.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: (OT:) New study shows the Sun is not the cause of Global Warming
    ... Heat starts to melt the ice in the Northern Hemi, ... and August evne as the Northern Hemi moves away from the sun.. ... So, it gets hotter in July and August, because the Earth is still dealing ...
    (alt.autos.toyota)
  • Re: The Senate proves its worth again
    ... believe everything that happens to environment is caused by man and who have ... change in sun flairs and the relationship of the sun to the earth in its ... caps in the Artic are thinning the ice caps in the Antarctic are thickening. ...
    (alt.autos.toyota)
  • Re: The Senate proves its worth again
    ... believe everything that happens to environment is caused by man and who have ... change in sun flairs and the relationship of the sun to the earth in its ... caps in the Artic are thinning the ice caps in the Antarctic are thickening. ...
    (alt.autos.toyota)
  • Re: The reason carbon 14 dating is unreliable
    ... to stop cosmic rays from reaching earth (and not only from the sun) ... A shield in the form of the infamous "water canopy", ... the likely effect is a catastrophic temperature drop, because the ice* ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Spacey Ambitions - Theyre KIDDING, Right ?
    ... you don't support the conservative Republican in office? ... :>Get resources and it will serve as a more economical means. ... here on Earth, and until and unless you do so, you ... nor pollution of the environment. ...
    (sci.space.policy)