Re: Highlander Hybrid 2006

Yes, for sure but after all is said and done price is the ultimate
conservator. The price of crude is what will lead us in the direction of
viable alternate energy sources. $70 a barrel crude makes other sources
more cost effective. There is a coal to oil plant being built in eastern PA
that will convert clean burning anthracite coal, into low sulpher diesel
fuel, as we speak. We can greatly reduce our dependency on foreign crude
when we finally decide it is time to catch up to the rest of the world in
turning to nuclear power to generate electricity. We currently generate on
20% compared to others like Japan and France that use nuclear power to
generate nearly all of their electricity. Another is developing clearer
more efficient use for the abundance of coal under our feet. It will take
politicians with some balls to stand up to the environuts however to get us
to the point were we use oil many for its carbon rather than as a fuel.


mike hunt


"The beneVolent dbu" <relaxand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:relaxand-A63830.16033024012006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <1nidncB0bq7aFUveUSdV9g@xxxxxxx>,
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> $3,000 will buy enough gas to run a Corolla for around three years. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt
>
>
> That is if there is enough gas to buy.
>
> I'm hoping they'll come up with a better system than batteries. Fuel
> cells perhaps. Of course Mike you and I won't have to worry much about
> gas supplies in our lifetime, there should be plenty, but it will get
> more expensive as time goes on.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:T6vBf.5778$vU2.1860@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Honda Insight battery packs are $3600 and have been supplied by Honda
>> > off
>> > warranty sometimes with a discount. Toyota has not yet sold any
>> > battery
>> > packs yet but predict they will cost $3000 or less when warranties are
>> > over.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:Ci6dnfCT0omKzkveUSdV9g@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >> The manufactures that build hybrids realize the extremely high cost of
>> >> the batteries is a problem, that is why they all have a long term
>> >> warranty on the battery pack. However it is prorated, like any other
>> >> battery warranty. The problem for the owner is down the road when a
>> >> very
>> >> expensive battery pack, currently between $4,000 to $7,000, that will
>> >> need to be replaced on an old highly depreciated vehicle.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> mike hunt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "The beneVolent dbu" <relaxand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:relaxand-6E1914.19023723012006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> In article <mHedndGAr-5HnUjeUSdV9g@xxxxxxx>,
>> >>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The is basic problem with all hybrids. They do not provide enough
>> >>>> of a
>> >>>> decrease in fuel consumption, compared to a conventionally power
>> >>>> vehicle, to
>> >>>> justify the purchase price premium. To say nothing of the thousands
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> dollars that will be needed to replace the battery pack at some
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> down
>> >>>> the line.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> mike hunt
>> >>>
>> >>> I had a nice sitdown chat with the Toyota service manager at where I
>> >>> bought my car while it was getting a oil change and I asked him about
>> >>> batteries in the hybrids. He said they have had only one battery
>> >>> failure from day one of the hybrids at that dealership and that was
>> >>> on a
>> >>> brand new car. Infant mortality I'd guess.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <neilnewsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:1138030700.478518.313940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Art wrote:
>> >>>> >> Check Consumer Reports. I am pretty sure they had an article
>> >>>> >> about
>> >>>> >> it.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Correct. Call local public library, ask if they have back issues
>> >>>> > of
>> >>>> > CR,
>> >>>> > then go to library and read back issues.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > You can also get this info via an online subscription to the CR
>> >>>> > web
>> >>>> > site at:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://www.consumerreports.org
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> When my wife was considering a Prius, the salesman happened to
>> >>>> >> mention
>> >>>> >> that
>> >>>> >> mileage on the Highlander hybrid sucked.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Consumer Reports found the following mileage for the Highlander.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > V6: 13 city, 25 highway. 150-mile trip: 22. Cruising range per
>> >>>> > tank
>> >>>> > of
>> >>>> > gas: 390 miles.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > V6 Hybrid: 16 city, 28 highway. 150-mile trip: 27.Cruising range
>> >>>> > per
>> >>>> > tank of gas: 435 miles.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > To summarize, the hybrid Highlander does offer better MPG, but
>> >>>> > it's
>> >>>> > still an SUV and giving it hybrid power doesn't work miracles in
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> > MPG department. And the hybrid Highlander is also more expensive
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > buy. I like the idea of the hybrid and appreciate the advantages,
>> >>>> > but
>> >>>> > in the case of the Highlander Hybrid and other hybrid SUVs, at
>> >>>> > current
>> >>>> > gas prices, it'll take maybe 5-10 years to pay you back for the
>> >>>> > higher
>> >>>> > purchase price.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > BTW, for the comparable Lexus SUV, results are almost identical.
>> >>>> > Suggest you read the CR back issues.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > If you want high MPG from a Toyota hybrid, get a Prius. Then rent
>> >>>> > an
>> >>>> > SUV when you need one.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> "Jack Dow" <wheels7@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>> >> news:GtTAf.11370$eR.4432@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >> > Anyone have info on actual mileage vs. posted (window sticker)?
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Jack
>> >>>> >
>> >>> --
>> >>> "Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow
>> >>> astronauts."
>> >>>
>> >>> Al Gore
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
> --
> "Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."
>
> Al Gore


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