Re: Salesmen vs. customers

Ray O wrote:
<sjacyna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:fUtnf.3339$7S.880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Just something that's been bugging me for quite some time now. I've been on
edmunds and other such boards. And all I hear is car buyers whining about
this and whining about that. Now i'm not going to sit here and say that alot
of car salesmen aren't honest. What i'm trying to bring across is that
consumers can sometimes bring this on themselves.

Imagine being a salesman and spending 3-4 hours with someone only to find
out that they had no interest in buying a vehicle, or worst yet are just
beating you up for a price and then go to the dealer down the road and buy
from him. Thats 3-4 hours out of your day that you didn't make ONE DIME!

This can lead salesmen to viewing customers in the same light as the
customers view salesmen.

Another thing, it is very frustrating when customers come in with so called
"invoice" from edmunds or other sources and they are not the true invoice
(assuming financial reserve and dealer holdback are factored in). Good luck
convincing them otherwise.

Just remember when you do buy a vehicle, your salesman is also a normal
person trying to make a living. How would you react working a 12 hour day
and making no money? If the salesman is upfront, friendly, and seems truly
interested in you being in his dealership 9 times out of 10 he truly cares
about your business.


Good (and correct) advice!
When I shop for a car, I know what I want, what is reasonable for what I want, and what I am willing to pay. If we reach an agreement, I buy it, if not I leave my name and phone number and tell them if they decide they want to sell it at the price I offered, give me a call. Last time it was a couple or three weeks and the salesman called, and I bought it. I don't waste their time, and they don't waste mine we don't play games. They know what they have to have if they are going to stay in business. Sometimes they call, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I've already bought something in the meantime. One thing I tell them up front is that is the absolute price I will pay, no docking fees, or paper work fees etc. The price I offer is the obsolute price, PEROID! No extra fees at closing time or I walk out the door, and I make sure they understand that. On the other hand I make it clear I won't try to Jew them down if they call.
I've bought several used cars from dealers this way, the best deals I've gotten were when I paid more for low mileage vehicles that were in excellent shape and well taken care of by the previous owner. All in all they turned out to be a better deals then the bargain cars with high mileage I've also bought.
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