Re: [OT] their way or no way


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Dave L, 10/29/2005,7:11:56 PM, wrote:
>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > Jeff Strickland, 10/29/2005,4:13:53 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> > > I read once of a group of black men that were ambushed by some
>> > > guys from the KKK. Are we to believe that all white guys are
>> > > associated with the KKK because of this? Should we believe that a
>> > > random sample of Muslims reflects the entire faith?
>> >
>> > You seem to not realize that the religion preaches that infidels
>> > that don't convert are supposed to be destroyed.
>>
>> Are you sure about this? A old co-worker/friend is also Muslim and I
>> asked him some of the questions regarding interpretations we hear
>> about. Like many religions it depends on the interpretation and
>> context you choose to believe, and what is preached by an Imam,
>> Priest, Rabbi, etc. Whether it be for good or evil, religion can be
>> very powerful. Can't condemn everyone in a group for the assholes
>> out there. Unfortunately the "news" most often show the bad.
>>
>> I'm by no means a religious scholar but this is my .02 cents worth.
>
> It depends upon whether Jihad (holy war against infidels) has been
> announced. If so, then the infidel will live by Islamic rules or be
> executed. There is a slight amount of tolerance given to certain other
> religions, but they will be toeing a narrow line. This is why the
> terrorist leaders are constantly announcing their aggressions as Jihad,
> to justify their actions and hope others will join.

Joining, others will. People who blindly listen to "leaders" without
thinking. Even a little education can go a long way. Maybe the people who
join the "Jihad" are the equivalent of the robbers, rapists and murderers in
the U.S.?

> I lived in the Middle East for a few years and this is what has been
> told me by the locals. Whether the official word in the Koran is
> ambiguous about that is immaterial if the followers listen to the
> religious leaders who interpret the message to fit their agenda. It's
> just like our politics here. People will take what they want to hear
> and discard the rest.

Agreed. And many religious leaders use emotion and other rhetoric to sway
their followers. They tend to be great speakers and storytellers.

> How many Islamic religious leaders have you heard stand up and condemn
> the beheadings in Iraq? Very few have and they certainly didn't say
> much when that Jewish fellow Nick was killed.

Good point. You hear them stand up sometimes but not often enough. They
would probably fear for their own lives if they did. Besides, when they do
you might hear a quick blurb about it on the news. However when there's a
killing the news coverage is all over it. Ever wonder what would happen if
the evening or world news hyped up the "Good" instead of the "Bad"?

-Dave


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