Re: tolerate but not condone
- From: "Charles @ Kankakee" <n5hsr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:09:42 -0500
"J Strickland" <spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Ray O wrote:
>>> "J Strickland" <spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article
>>> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>>> >>
>>> >> The Daily Mail
>>> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>>> >>
>>> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
>>> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits
>>> > swear
>>> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
>>> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
>>> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
>>> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long
>>> >> as
>>> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
>>> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If
>>> >> a
>>> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
>>> >> lesson.
>>> >>
>>> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>>> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>>> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>>> >>
>>> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>>> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>>> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>>> >>
>>> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15
>>> >> and
>>> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
>>> > disposal ...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>>> >>
>>> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
>>> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
>>> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>>> >> score," he wrote in the letter
>>> >>
>>> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the
>>> >> end
>>> >> of the lesson."
>>> >>
>>> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>>> >>
>>> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
>>> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
>>> >>
>>> >> Should have do's and don'ts
>>> >>
>>> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>>> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles
>>> >> of
>>> >> 'do and don't'.
>>> >>
>>> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
>>> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
>>> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>>> >>
>>> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>>> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
>>> >>
>>> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>>> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>>> >> improve something by discouraging it."
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
>>> >
>>> > PS
>>> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's
>>> > knuckles,
>>> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
>>> > across.
>>> >
>>>
>>> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden
>>> ruler
>>> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
>>> their
>>> habits.
>>>
>>> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
>>> shattered
>>> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
>>> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
>>> were
>>> really pissed.
>>>
>>> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and
>>> did
>>> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
>>> If
>>> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
>>> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
>>> less
>>> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>>>
>>> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
>>> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
>>> knuckles
>>> or lift you off your feet...
>>
>>
>> ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
>>
>> I just WISH some *** would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
>> *** out of them.
>>
>
> That's the difference in a liberal houshold and a conservative one.
>
> If I came home with bruises on my knuckles because the teacher broke a
> ruler on them, my Dad would spank me again for fucking off in school
> enough to get in trouble.
>
>
>
>
We got TWICE the punishment at home that we got in school.
And liberals are part of what's wrong with this country. Are you sure we
can't barter them to Big Oil and get our gas below 2.78 a gallon here in the
Kankakee Cartel? (Bet it's 3 by the end of the week, it's already 3 in
Chicago.) Nah, they're worthless.
Charles of Kankakee
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