Re: tolerate but not condone


"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:
>> "J Strickland" <spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article
>> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>> >>
>> >> The Daily Mail
>> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>> >>
>> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>> >>
>> >
>> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
>> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits
>> > swear
>> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
>> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
>> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
>> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long
>> >> as
>> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
>> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If
>> >> a
>> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
>> >> lesson.
>> >>
>> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>> >>
>> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>> >>
>> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
>> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
>> > disposal ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>> >>
>> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
>> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
>> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>> >> score," he wrote in the letter
>> >>
>> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the
>> >> end
>> >> of the lesson."
>> >>
>> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>> >>
>> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
>> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
>> >>
>> >> Should have do's and don'ts
>> >>
>> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles
>> >> of
>> >> 'do and don't'.
>> >>
>> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
>> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>> >>
>> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
>> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>> >>
>> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
>> >>
>> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>> >> improve something by discouraging it."
>> >>
>> >
>> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
>> >
>> > PS
>> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's
>> > knuckles,
>> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
>> > across.
>> >
>>
>> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
>> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
>> their
>> habits.
>>
>> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
>> shattered
>> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
>> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
>> were
>> really pissed.
>>
>> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
>> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
>> If
>> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
>> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
>> less
>> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>>
>> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
>> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
>> knuckles
>> or lift you off your feet...
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>
> ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
>
> I just WISH some *** would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
> *** out of them.
>

That's the difference in a liberal houshold and a conservative one.

If I came home with bruises on my knuckles because the teacher broke a ruler
on them, my Dad would spank me again for fucking off in school enough to get
in trouble.




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