Re: Importing a used (nearly new) Mercedes from the USA to Canada
- From: "wolfpuppy" <togrul@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:29:27 -0500
"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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wolfpuppy wrote:
"Richard Sexton" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Common to you, perhaps, but I didn't think anywhere on the planet
was as sue-happy as here in the US, where tort lawyers have
created more problems
in more fields than you can imagine. You guys must hate lawyers
even more
than us.
re common knowledge ... kidding.... here in Canada we do pretty
much as you
do in the good old US of A.
The differnce being the loser pays the winners legal fees here; we
have far far fewer dumb cases go to triel because of this.
I like layers. You wanna shoot all of them? Fine, but I'm keeping
mine and you
can argue the merits of your own case yourself.
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Well, that makes all the difference in the world, when the loser has
to pay the legal fees of the winner. If that were the case here, we
wouldn't have so many frivolous lawsuits, like suing over spilled
coffee and such. It's because of these frequent ridiculous suits
that liability costs are so high. Did you know that the average
doctor has to pay around 100-200k dollars a year for malpractice
insurance? And companies will generally always settle out of court
over the lamest suits not because they feel they will lose but
because they would be out 100k dollars defending themselves, so they
take the cheapest way out, and, of course, pass the costs on to the
consumer.
Oh, boy. I'm going to have some fun with this one.
Tsk..tsk..tsk, now. Just to interject one simple fact: believe not the
MEdia!
The media's portrayal of the McDonald's "hot coffee" case has been so
in error as to render it unworthy of comment except to state that the
myths
are just that, myth. The restaurant had had many complaints, the burns
were deep, the skin grafts numerous...blah, blah, blah. But that doesn't
get attention for the mega-millionaire-media-mouths, whereas the
deliberate
mis-impression that's so prevalent did/does.
No, it was not in error. McDonald's was sued, and they lost. I'm not sure
of the exact amount, but it was a huge sum of money. The point here was
that it was a frivilous lawsuit to begin with and should not have resulted
in the judgement that was granted. McDonalds was equally at fault, too, not
because they served hot coffee, but because it came to light that they had
settled similar cases like this over 700 times out of court, which only
encourages more lawsuits of this nature. The problem here is that when a
company tries to fight a lawsuit of this type, if generally costs more in
legal fees to defend themselves than it would to pay the settlement.
McDonalds, from a corporate standpoint, was simply doing what most any
company does when it looks at the bottom line--take the cheapest way out.
As far as believing the media, well, that depends on what media you pay
attention to. We have a very liberal biased media here in the states,
unfortunately, but there are still media sources which will give both sides
of a story without an agenda of their own. My favorite newspaper, for
instance, would be the Wall Street Journal, where you get just the facts.
>Having said that, however, there are US citizens whose
constitutional rights
are routinely trammeled asunder daily and not one attorney gives too hoots
in hell.
It must be some esoteric event to garner television cameras, etc. The
legal
system in the USA is so out of kelter that it is bound to go the way of GM
and Ford
as more people see it for what it is! Hint: it ain't about justice,
unless you spell that
"just-us". Frivilous lawsuits have become the norm. The more frivolity
the better,
because Tinsel Town is calling the shots.
If, by tinsel town, you are referring to Hollywood, I will agree that they
are liberal leftest as well (not all, but as an industry it would seem so).
But to say they are calling the shots is off. In case you haven't noticed,
the liberal left has been losing power in government for many years. Bush
was elected twice, conservatives have the majority in Congress and the House
of Representatives, and liberal democrats are losing polital offices
everywhere in the country. Why? Because they are on the wrong side of
history, and most of the American people, who are not the dummies that they
would like to portray, know this. Most of us just shake our head when some
of these actors say the things they say.
I'm not at all sure what rights you feel we citizens are losing here. You
will have to be more specific on that. The fact that lawyers push frivilous
lawsuits isn't causing me to lose any rights--I could do the same thing; I
just don't chose to. It may cause the price of a certain product to go up,
but I can shop the competitor, and that puts the burden back on the original
company to examine its' own behavior concerning suits.
As far as the legal system in America going the way of GM and Ford? Last
time I looked, being a lawyer had nothing to do with selling cars. There
will always be a legal system; our country couldn't do without it. We are a
nation based on the concept of laws and due process. The system may go
astray sometimes, but it isn't going to go away, and, it is not a
"corporation".
Doctors, like others are a group who pay the price for what a few
criminals do.
So what's new? Medical malpractice is necessary to discourage murder!
Sorry,
but that's the way it is, and nothing gets attention like hitting the
pocketbook. MD's
played the stock market and lost! I'm not loosing one hour of sleep over
their
situation: they brought it on themselves. Medical malpractice is such a
farce!
Have you ever seen an MD at the food stamp office or sleeping under a
bridge?
You couldn't be more wrong here. Doctors don't pay the price, we do. We
are the ultimate consumer, and we will pay the ultimate price. Just like
any business, when a doctors' expenses go up, the price for their services
go up. The bad guys here aren't the doctors, but the lawyers who create
huge malpractice suits, resulting in monetary awards that are ludicrous,
are. Because of the constant threat of being sued, whether they ever are or
not, all doctors must have malpractice insurance. Without this insurance,
one suit could put them out of business. These costs are then passed on to
us, the consumer.
By the way, doctors don't murder people. They might make a mistake, because
they are, after all, human, but they don't deliberatley set out to injure
people. And if they do make a mistake, is it fair to award someone millions
of dollars? Look, we're talking about people who spend a great deal of
money and many years of study to become what they are. One of the reasons
they make the money they do is because they didn't start working in their
field until 8 yrs or so after high school. It takes a lot of dedication to
be a doctor, so I don't begrudge them their fees. I don't like the
malpractice aspect of it, but, again, that is not their fault--that is
brought about by tort lawyers and judges who award these assinine large
awards.
Of course not, and you won't! They're whining about affording three
Mercedes
at a time instead of an entire fleet! Yeah, I know, the attorneys helped
put them
there, but the bottom line is that this is nothing but an argument between
MDs and
attorneys and it's a plot to take more from the non-lawyers and non-MDs.
I've no
sympathy or empathy for any of them! They don't do the work half the
time anyway,
but leave it to nurses and/or interns while they sip martinis and do
another talk show
or try in vain to create a new life form from bits and pieces from various
of God's
creatures.
As far as I know, there is no obvious collusion between lawyers and doctors.
Doctors, as a rule, would rather not have anything to do with lawyers, and,
as far as doctors and lawyers plotting to take more money from the rest of
us? Do you know how insane that sounds? In fact, the last part of this
post has me thinking that you have had several shots too many and need to
lie down. I can't even comment on such blather. You are one atom from
calling doctors frankenstein and using lightning bolts for medical
procedures.
.
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