Re: Microsoft seeks patent for office 'spy' software



On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:41:05 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
<turdfred2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:16:57 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
<turdfred2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ThePsyko wrote:
On 24 Jan 2008 I stormed the castle called alt.2600 and heard teque cry
out in news:fnahfr$ih$1@xxxxxxxxxxx

Well, this is interesting

http://slashdot.org/articles/08/01/16/1427242.shtml
~or~
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article319348
0.ece


lol... the link at the beginning of the article (between the authors
names and the actual body..)...

"View video of Apple's new MacBook Air"

as to the patent, it's certainly an interesting use of technology, but
more scary than anything else IMO



I can just see it. You open word and clippy pops up, your blood pressure
shoots through the roof and paramedics are called. For the 900th time a
video refuses to play in powerpoint (but it played at least once
indicating it should work), paramedics are called but it's too late. At
least it's known what caused the workers death.

...um, regarding the PP and video thing, not all video is the same.
Just because it's using the same container (like AVI, MOV, MPG, etc)
doesn't mean that they're all using the same codec...which is why
you'd find some that would play and some that wouldn't.


It's not that. It's that *sometimes* the same video will play in
powerpoint and sometimes it doesn't.

You need to be more specific than that. Like is there a
distinguishable pattern? Like if you reboot the system and then play
does it work and then when you play a second time it doesn't? Is it
JUST in PowerPoint? After it doesn't play in PowerPoint can you play
the video outside of PowerPoint? Did it JUST work ONCE and then NEVER
since? Or is it just completely off the wall random, sometimes
working, sometimes not. If the later is true, congratulations, you
have factory seconds eBay purchased shitware memory in your system
(and possibly a fucked processor as well). If there is a discernable
pattern then it's likely there's some kind of conflict or a corrupt
file somewhere and when it initially plays it's causing some part of
windows to crash (some part that's used to play video content).

Ultimately it sounds like you're just not very bright, the kind of
person who would call me up when I was working at Sykes and read me an
error message and then ask, "What does that mean?" To which I would
reply, "It means exactly what it says." o_O

It's always amazing to me at the number of people who can
read...without actually being able to read at all. LOL In the eyes,
out the ears I guess.

Really it usually doesn't take very much deductive reasoning in order
to isolate a problem and then fix it. The only thing really stopping
you is either ignorance or stupidity...pick one.

If you really want to solve your problem the first thing you need is
all the facts...you know, facts, those nifty things you can use to
paint a picture of a situation. Start with the questions I gave in
the start of the post, that should give you a good base.

For example if it only worked ONCE and then never again...and never
again in ANY program...then it's obvious that you've got a problem
with the video drivers, either the wrong versions, they're corrupt,
mis-installed, etc. Oh and each one of those possibilities has
another set of questions you can ask to get more facts to narrow it
down precisely.

Then again, if it only worked ONCE and then never again and ONLY in
PowerPoint that would indicate a problem with PowerPoint, such as it's
not configured properly to use the right driver, or perhaps it has
some corrupt/missing files, etc.

Then again, if it works once, then doesn't work a second time until
you restart Windows, then obviously the video driver is being loaded
but then the video driver crashes during playback...again though you
need to check to see if it's JUST PP or the whole system, because if
it's JUST PP then it's probably NOT the video driver crashing, but
likely some part of PP that's crashing, possibly due to *** memory,
possibly due to a corrupt installation, etc, etc.

And then there's more questions you need to answer, like are there any
error messages? Is there a debug or log file anywhere regarding the
situation? Is there any specific behavior like you can hear the sound
but no audio? Is the screen completely black or is there something
else on it? Is the video intermittent? Flipped? Pixelated/damaged
looking?

Also have you tried flipping your memory sticks around? If you do and
the problems go away or the problems remain but become varied (for
example another program crashing that didn't used to crash before,
then it's obviously bad memory. If that yields no effects have you
tried adjusting the processor, reseating it, slowing it down, making
sure it's operating within the correct temperature, possibly swapping
it out. If that yields no change in the situation then you know the
processor is good.

At that point you should try reinstalling components. Start with the
basics like video codecs and graphic drivers, make sure all the
settings and configuration is correct and use downloaded drivers so
you know you're getting a good/fresh copy (cause the ones on yer CD
may be corrupt). Also check all the options/settings in PP so you
know it's not some simple little option you fucked up messing around
with it. If that still doesn't do anything try reinstalling PP, try
installing a different version and the same version, but not from your
current source (downloaded via torrents so you know you're getting a
fresh copy). If that still doesn't yield results then you should
reinstall everything from scratch, starting with JUST Windows and JUST
PowerPoint, don't install anything else, not even yer fuckin printer
drivers, JUST those two proggies. If it STILL doesn't work at that
point and you did all the previous hardware checking...then ya got a
fucked motherboard.

....ya see how this troubleshootin *** works, Kiddo? It really isn't
that hard you know, just gotta pull yer head on up outta yer ass and
spend less time bitching and more time gettin the facts so you can
solve your problem...unless of course you just LIKE having
problems...and I know that's true for a lot of Windows hatin Mac
Trendies.

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