Re: PINGY: Web developers

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:12:33 -0400, Me
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:23:45 -0400, Me
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:50:52 GMT, FrozenNorth
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Meet the new kid on the block.

http://www.apple.com/safari/

Now for Winders too.

New kid? Safari has been around for a while. Besides, as far as web
development goes, just stick with W3C HTML 401 Transitional compliant
code and it'll display properly on pretty much any browser. ;-)

Actually, no, it won't. There's a WHOLE *** load of alignment
problems between browsers, not to mention font differences, color
rendering, etc, etc. That's why smart developers use Flash,

bwaahhaha.

...babbled the anonymous fuckwit.

Anonymous has nothing to do with it.
Fuckwits issue blanket statements like "smart developers use Flash"

Do be sure and let us all know if
you manage to formulate an argument...

Smart developers work to a strict set of universal standards ie CSS then use
their 'smarts' to code cross browser fixes. When the browsers start
universally displaying the information correctly this will not be necessary.
They don't resort to flash.

I manually code everything W3C HTML 4.01 Transitional compliant and
I've yet to see any browser that any page I've ever coded wouldn't
display correctly on, and I've tested on most browsers. It's been my
experience that if it gets past the W3C markup validator, it'll
generally display properly regardless of browser. Sure, there are
minor differences in the way different browsers display various
commands (such as <hr> - horizontal rule), but I haven't seen anything
that drastically screwed up the overall display of the page, such as
the typical alignment problems that are routinely evident in the non
W3C compliant crap code generated by FrontPage and the likes. Keep in
mind that my stuff isn't as cutting edge and snazzy as Matts. I can
appreciate the talent involved in effecting such cutting edge
artistry, but I generally try to keep it simple and functional because
that seems far more fool proof when you're trying to build a secure
and effective commercial site. A lot of people must appreciate that as
I do manage to sell a good bit of stuff on the net. ;-)

You could sell a lot more though if you put more into the design of
it. Here's some good reading:
: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12516-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=34733&messageID=639263&start=-9994

The environment in which you present your content is often even MORE
important than the content itself. People are notorious for buying
products on nothing more than the way the packaging appeals to them.
Humans are EMOTIONALLY INTELLIGENT beings, which means emotion drives
most of our decisions throughout the day. What we like, what we don't
like, they're based on FEELINGS more than anything. When you create a
website you have direct and total control over the environment in
which the content is presented...to NOT take advantage of that to its
fullest...foolish at best.

Another good example...drive in theaters. Drive in theaters have
nearly died out because they simply cannot compete with the
ENVIRONMENT that regular theaters use to present the content, the
movies. From climate controlled rooms to surround sound to sitting in
a comfy chair 25 feet from the screen...the experience as far as
enjoying the content simply cannot be touched by the age old drive in
theater with mono sound, dusty parking lots, 500+ feet away through a
glass window and sitting in uncomfortable car seats. Really, the only
reason for even going to a drive in theater in this day in age is for
the experience OF the drive in theater itself, not so much the movie.

Environment is EVERYTHING.

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Onideus Mad Hatter
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